. And so what Id like to do is just rewind a couple of years to fall 2018. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. Great! I remember praying before the Harvest Elgin campus as a garage, and its a former corporate space. Christians should stop feeding these people. And I know it was a battle. And thank you for loving our Lord and showing the way. Hes not qualified. 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I had, of course, people from Harvest who had heard it, sending me sending me clips. . How about it James McDonald and John MacArthur (and the like), how about it? Nah Gary, thats just typical cat behavior for you, with or without Kenneth Copeland. And and that would be my word to James McDonald. Dan George served as an elder at Harvest Bible Chapel over a period of 10 years, actively serving on the elder board from 2010 through 2015, and rejoining the board in late 2018. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. I believe it was from Mancow who texted me. To donate, click here. And I remember a comment being made. The pastor of the largest church in Minnesota (around 23,000 average . Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. . You do that, and hope that the person will repent, and that they will turn and that therell be restoration. You can imagine it wasnt it wasnt long before the elders were, you know, talking and I dont remember the timing exactly. This was months months later. It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. I dont know how many people had heard of it. She declined. Were just talking a minute ago, you know, the emotion and the weight and the relief and the sadness, and all those things are true. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. Yeah, yeah. And whats so tough in this whole thing is that there are wolves among the sheep. Ive already told you there was consensus from board. Yeah. And to give you the flavor of the meeting, when I walked in the room, and we all greeted each other, we were in the former executive pastors office around an oval table, and James McDonald sitting across from me. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. Visconti wins the Internet! The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. They said no, for various reasons. And I was just, it was entertaining, you know, on one level, but on the other level, just absolutely tragic. Wow! Then the board announced its executive committee would be resigning over the next few months. At least some did. Jared Prayed for you just now. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. And this still disheartens me, because the people of Harvest, who we were supposed to be overseeing at that point, we were silent on that weekend, because we couldnt come to an agreement about what we would do. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I wasnt looking forward to that. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. As I saw it, this letter of unconditional support was a huge and somewhat desperate PR move on James MacDonalds part, to say, hey, look, all our leaders stand with us, I must be okay. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/898.htm bagad (treachery aka abuse) is used FIVE times in Malachi 2:10-16!!! And he was the elder who insisted that scathing letters written by former and current staff at Harvest actually reached the members of the board. I didnt know these things were going on, but Im so sorry. I dont see that as absolving James McDonald. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. And yet so many still have not and still waiting for James McDonald to do that. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. No, it wasnt edited. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? According to his email, MacDonald has been able to hire a small staff and encouraged people to sign up for his Home Church Networkvideo messages for people to use in a home church. So they have no idea what they really these, the elder board was large and had no idea really who James MacDonald was, am I right? Hes a large imposing man. when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . Leslie said: Julie Roys is a Christian investigative reporter who has called out some big names, and she has suffered for it. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. I believe the board was deceived by Satan. And I just asked the Holy Spirit to show me You have to show me You have to show me whats going on. And this is when everything really started happening. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? So I had a pretty good sense of what the meeting was gonna be from that point on. . ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. Jesus died on the cross for to take the weight of our sin so that we could be released from it. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. And when I read that, I just shook my head. Imagine such a thing. And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. And I said, I understand that. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. Wives submit to your husbands. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. She said a survey of 20,000 women for her book, The Great Sex Rescue, found that when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . Should have that should have been enough of enough of a clue for me to say, Wait, wait, wait, thats a check. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. Theres still one more thing I want to ask about. And if I can give you a context, where I was in my thought process, in that. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. This is James said what he said. Ill write a statement. Longtime leader of the Chicago-area megachurch Harvest Bible Chapel James MacDonald has been ousted as senior pastor in light of unsavory remarks he made on a hot mic that were aired on local media Tuesday. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) I remember saying to the larger board, Guys, it is the grace of God that we have these letters. The fruit which was souls coming to Christ was enormous. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. (God) says, the prudent see danger and take refuge. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. The senior pastor at my church moved into town in 2014, and bought a home in proximity to the church for $260,000. And all of the elders should resign and repent for what they did. But it happened to me in the meeting where I raised a couple things and James McDonald is like, I dont remember that. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. to Rick Donald. And this was a spiritual battle. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. Very loyal to James McDonald. How come its always wives submit to your husbands and never husbands love your wives? It was demonic. Come out of her, my people. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. This wasnt anything else. And I, the next day, I wrote and said, Well, okay, I respect your wishes. And and Im still feeling it and Im still hearing from people. Like Tullian Tchvidjian, he would be a great salesman. And in those letters like Jacob Ross, who was the bodyguard of James McDonald. He would probably be wildly successful. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. TRR reached out to Visconti numerous times for comment about his partnership with MacDonald and his provocative social media posts, but Visconti did not respond. Harvest didnt know what it looked like to not have him as a senior pastor. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. They should go to the reconciliation team. And he opened the meeting, looking at me and said, I know what youre going to do, and the church is going to implode or blow up, and its going to be on you. If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of God, and Proverbs, etc. And its to warn people, right? So that tells you something about the backbone and the integrity of Dan Marquardt. Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. And I listened to it. On that Haiti trip. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. SMH. I knew that there were hundreds of people, probably more, that were hurt that all this stuff happened. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. And I got it. Whoever said the dumbest thing had to take off an, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation. This is going amongst the elders now. Also, in addition to those, you have the letter that was written by eight former elders at Harvest, who brought them in 2012, to the elder board, and within 24 hours, were excommunicated for bringing charges against James McDonald. Visconti also had posts supporting far-right causes. How much do you make? It wasnt an argument. Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? He teaches that wives should endure abuse like a missionary endures persecution. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. The headlines really heated up after the December 2018 publication of "Hard Times at Harvest," a lengthy expos by investigative journalist Julie Roys. Ill tell you one thing, Julie. Again, youre seeing it from a total other perspective where Im the bad guy, James is a good guy. 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Production and performance have replaced biblical exegesis and fellowship. He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. Not saying anything about the about the men in the room, but that becomes unwieldy. It was a heated discussion about letters and who should have the letters who should read the letters, etc., that night. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. Well she finally called Julie Jezebel Roys I invited Julie to appear in a public forum before and interested audience and answer for the many many lies she has told about me and my family as well as her bullying of anyone who opposes her or stands with us. According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . None of my sources said it was wrong. I just knew the Lord made it clear I had to do it. So its critically important that the truth be told. And my wife, my wife and I looking at each other and going are we really doing this? This story saddens me. Am I characterizing that correctly? And then you know, you would categorize these things. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". Julie Roys lives for her anti gospel, anti authority, man hating bias - even partnering with shock jocks like Mancow Muller or worse. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Instead of focusing on who is stronger and who is weaker, why dont we focus on how both of us can be strong for the kingdom and live out the calling that God has given to each of us individually and as a couple?, Visconti also posted recently on his Instagram story that abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And it was it was a battle in the natural, exposing James McDonald, the letters, the articles, everything. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? We knew what we knew what we were going to do. That was really wrongdoing at Harvest, would be to repent. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. So those letters, and I just, I had to thank you, Dan, because those letters may have never reached the full elder board had you not push the issue. He wasnt bringing it to the elders and through a discussion with a couple of the pastors, chose to give it to the elders, which we were thankful for. He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Tell Harvest Church board hows the fruit now? But to tell people they have to stay in a situation of violence, trauma and harm, or return to it, this is not a core tenet of Christianity. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. And so I felt relief. Sandy talked about over the years, other staff members coming to her after meeting with James McDonald in tears, just crushed. I need to repent. It basically says Jesus is as real as Santa Claus. The elder board is still in the dark. Am I right? But like I said, Hes really working hard to rewrite history. Hi. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. But by the time we were done that night, the decision that night was two things. And I said, Listen, I get it. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. And thats got to be a heavy. Thats about my attitude lately. The ministry is growing, we should expect to be attacked. @jamesmacdonald. I see that as just simply implicating a larger group and a conspiracy to use church money for stuff that was never intended. 2011 NIV. 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