So I remember shortly after I got here meeting with the Chief Technology Officer to have him give us a list of critical assets in the company and the way we're set up at the company. Thomas currently teaches courses in the areas of supply chain management and quantitative modeling in Darden's MBA, Executive MBA and Ph.D. programs. We really have had some great successes with suicide ideations in workplace violence with this tool. Prior to returning to graduate school, he worked for C-Way Systems, a software company specializing in manufacturing scheduling. Why do why do we need it too? We have a chief Technology Officer at corporate and then dotted line to him or chief technology officers in the business areas. /Type /Catalog The right answer is that it's a team sport. His office was responsible for multiple documents due annually to the President and the Congress, such as the National Threat Identification Prioritization Assessment, which informed the President on the gravest intelligence threats facing the United States, and the National Counterintelligence Strategy, which informed the President of how the Intelligence Community would mitigate those threats. We haven't been getting 'cause we haven't been saying it now. And just how critical their partnership was to our office to our success. Designed to help the U.S. and allies leverage emerging technologies to create a resilient multi-domain network. << Germany English Deutsch . Standing up a program is not the long pole in the tent. Some of these questions will give it about another 10 or 15 seconds. Is that something Lockheed Martin is done where they've gone out to the unclear population and obtain some separate consent? For info on our next webinar with that, thank you, Doug. We're not collecting anything new. Learn how we are strengthening the economies, industries and communities of our global partner nations. ", I am tremendously proud to work in an industry where Hispanics are lightly represented and achieving positions of leadership. << Oh excuse me good afternoon everyone. Lessons learned is the breakdown of business as usual mindset. Well, there's not a lot our office can do about that. The struggle that that that you hear a lot is that they have a real pressing need to make serious investment in insider threat. Lockheed Martin provides me an opportunity for job security and a chance to follow my passion. Quite frankly there isn't a right answer as to where this. Doug was fairly recently, 2018 honored with the first ever Lifetime Achievement Award for Counterintelligence by the Director of National Intelligence, so. It fails . We have first. Like I said, this programs are scalable, so if you're a small company or a medium sized company, maybe you don't invest in a tool if you just hire the right person. Transformational, lifelong learning experiences to develop well-rounded leaders, drive growth in a changing market. Another case we had same year. Your company's Crown jewels isn't that secret document, it's your intellectual property. Next line, please. And shortly after we got here. So what I'm going to do today is I'm going to talk a little bit about a way to stand up and execute a program. Is it in HR? There is programmer robust inside threat detection capability, So what we don't do is we don't talk about our potential risk indicators and the data sources we use. Enter information into their system immediately. Here Chief technology Officer, so that's really kind of where we get because they're not just focused on the next generation weapon systems, they're also focused on today's. Moving over to 3rd column implementation, this really is where we started our messaging and I'll tell you a story real quick so. Rep. John Garamendi, D-Calif., who leads HASC's readiness subcommittee, doubled down on Norcross's vow to fight adding extra F-35s to the FY22 budget. They weren't doing kind of balance, so it's just kind of an interesting thing to break down business as usual mindsets. I mean, it's actually pretty remarkable. /Length 2057 He is a co-author ofInventory and Production Management in Supply Chains, CRC Press. They've been a great partner to work with it. Engineers are challenged to look at the system surrounding them and find solutions to complex problems. 4 0 obj I'm thankful to work for a company that puts those individuals first, and we never forget who we are working for as they serve our country.". A pretty robust program, and you're collecting the right kind of data and it's being analyzed correctly. So I love this question, so I plug whoever did this one. And really what I want to dwell on today is the insider threat, but this program? The company just dropped his two week resignation notice and he's getting ready to go to company X. We don't sell it, it's just ours. And I remember the comments at the time and that was. Insider threat isn't just an IT problem or a security problem -- it's an interdisciplinary focus that demands communication and coordination from everyone. Doug is the Director of Counterintelligence and Corporate Investigations for Lockheed Martin. The Board of Directors is briefed every year. Does it create baggage? 1. Insider threat organization and governance is critical We've built the program. In this capacity, Mr. Thomas chaired the National Counterintelligence Operations Board, which was comprised of the Directors of Counterintelligence for each of the agencies within the Intelligence Community. On a pretty regular basis, we brief it quarterly to our steering committee and we brief at annually to our Board of Directors. Now, if he uses any of our data, you know you have a problem to your company has a problem. So what has to happen is based on whatever concern we might have that wasn't generated by the tool. The Insider Threat Subcommittee on in. But we put them underneath the wing of somebody who's got. People in anywhere Between 25 years old and 70 years old there from legal, there are scientists, engineers, HR, security information security there from all walks of life quite frankly, and they came back to us and said, oh so you want to create a culture of snitches. I appreciate and value working on the products that will one day save our heroes. Based on the concept of operations, so I think that's very important. Um in for an annual conference, and sure enough, the entire SERT team is part of that. On the need to involve them and what we needed from the FBI and Oh my God, you wouldn't believe that pushback that I got from general counsel initially. I will tell you who gave me the hardest time after. Robust and South threat detection capability. Threat detection is due diligence to the supply chain. Of course they intend to work well with it in legal and and you know the different departments key security versus regular security and counterintelligence. It's on your culture. /MediaBox [0 0 792 612] But none of them had what we need, and at the end of the day, what we needed was something that looked at the human behavior and in digital behavior. I consider it an honor and privilege!, 2023 Lockheed Martin Corporation. So like I said, we knew we had to build our own tool. And do we really do counterintelligence? I mean, still. /Contents 4 0 R But the reason why I wanted to keep kind of talents in the name. endobj Point towards disgruntlement or stressors. I have been used to it for many years, so in your engagement with the board and the senior executives at Lockheed, what have you found is the most persuasive argument for them to get on board with spending money on insider threat and you know. Is because if you think about the concerning behaviors of people who are considering suicide or people who are considering workplace violence on a significant scale and those people who are considering espionage after locking Martin proprietary information, there are some similarities, not exact. Well at that time we were 140,000 people. July 9, 2003 / 6:40 AM / CBS/AP Police say gunshots and then bedlam exploded Tuesday morning at the Lockheed Martin assembly plant in Meridian, Miss., as a white factory worker described as a. Opaque transparency. The decision to expand that program. It can mean a hard drive. After high school, their love of science and math took them on divergent career paths that then intersected in the Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control business. But it also includes workplace violence on the scale of a Nadal Hassan or an Aaron Alexis. So for the companies that I'm out addressing right now, if you have employees at work, overseas dot TDY, not on business travel but work overseas, you have to abide by every country's privacy laws. Alright, that's excellent advice, Doug. So if you know a friend who couldn't make it, don't worry. So I'm going to let your imagination run wild on the kind of data we collect and analyze. Recruiting military & Veteran talent is absolutely crucial to Lockheed Martin. You move over to the second column development. A6 04F8>!&|aq@_4`frn6Ue-$b~Md*=Z3)c6u$NBF$.q/s3H\ju|wX%QL? w7jx5=dW)5`"`l>(vj-7G0: H'iF[>%+Fk%"6~1OBiyca-";Jk&_NQdo:vBX5AiZa?SXM! The IC Intelligence Committee has been, uh, alive and well. And if you think about it, this kind of why we merged investigation and counterbalance under the same office. He lied. Doug works at Lockheed Martin as Head of Corporate CI Operations. Again, if you have. They have not once did US harm in any way. Excellent, thank you. View Doug Thomas's business profile as Corporate CI Operations Head at Lockheed Martin. They have no program, they had nothing to mitigate this kind of a problem. Building and sustaining relationships with the federal government who do kind of talents in the insider threat programs. Offered in-person, online or both. ", I think the best aspect of my position is the open table culture at Lockheed Martin. He resides in Maryland with his wife and three sons. Darden's senior advanced management experience for top global executives. The next bullet is our internal audit. Are the potential risk indicators you collect. And what I'm here to say is, no, we're trying to mitigate an ugly trend trend that just keeps on going. The long poles in the tent are senior leadership. This is the definition we use in Lockheed Martin. I mean this is the one that a lot of people have asked me a lot of questions about over the years and that's why we built this chart the way we did. /Pages 2 0 R How did? A lot of experience, so going left to right the first column. Dr. Michael is the lead engineer for theX-59 QueSST. Um, other things that happened is he added Clearence, so of course we notified the government and you know they. Mr. Thomas holds a Bachelor's degree in Asian Studies. OK, so we focus a lot on training and awareness. But if you have a governance structure like I've demonstrated on this chart where you've got a steering committee at the Senior Vice President, Vice President level. So that's really good support. Quite frankly, it's a crawl walk, run approach, but eventually we got to everything we wanted. We showed up. It's actually, it's less of a legal decision, more of a risk decision on whether or not we can look in there or not. I have the program Red teamed by real experts to make sure that the tool itself is not penetrable, because if you think about all the data that's in that tool and how sensitive that date is, we've got a strong obligation to make sure that that data is never lost. >> So we end up delaying a robust program because we had to build the programs, build a tool in House, which I is the last thing I wanted to do. . Again, Doug, thank you for the interview. d***@lmco.com. Read More. How do you? 1 0 obj As pretty intrusive. ]T~'#8Xk%u T~- He has testified as an expert witness and consulted for several large organizations on supply chain strategy including Accenture, CSL Behring, Dell, ExxonMobil and Lockheed Martin Aerospace Corporation. Well, our CEO wanted us to make sure that we were messaging correctly to the employee workforce relative to this new program. We develop laser weapon systems, radio frequency and other directed energy technologies for air, ground and sea platforms to provide an affordable countermeasure alternative. Yeah, I think that's another good question and I'm kinda gonna sound like I'm bipolar on this answer. I think this could be a proof of concept as far as referrals go to federal law enforcement, I feel confident that this is going to be in our best interest. Interested in joining Lockheed Martin? Yeah, well, we already have all this stuff, you know. I'm the founder and CEO. /XObject << So, it was an easy choice to come back., The extra support that comes with training, mentoring and connecting with others having a similar experience is invaluable.. Double Asian operation. That's what makes us tell gives us the ability to tell stories to our senior leadership of what is it? >> Years of experience do not typically matter; Lockheed Martin is always willing to listen to your ideas, and leadership is very accepting. While we're doing that, if you could submit your questions via the Q&A button in the Zoom Webinar tool an we will start jumping in and getting it. Previous to his role within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Mr. Thomas was a Special Agent for 25 years with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations. It just start off with one guy or Gal who has a right background who understands how nation states operate, will understand how competitors operate. Previously, Dougl Read More Contact Douglas Thomas's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/20/2022 10:24 PM Email d***@lockheedmartin.com Engage via Email Contact Number (301) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number SDI and we socialize it with the CSA and DNI and the FBI. Pushing these great Veterans to open roles and helping hiring managers understand the immense value of a Veteran Hire brings a significant pride. Is takes privacy into consideration? /Img1 8 0 R He is a member of the Institute for Operations Research and Management Sciences, as well as the Production and Operations Management Society. ThreatSwitch puts employees at the center of your security and insider threat program.Schedule a demo to find out just how different we are. Certainly not our potential risk indicators, but the fact that we had a program. The questions I don't really have an office, that's a concern for me They're all on board. In September of 2009, he retired as a member of the Senior Executive Service and last served as the Executive Director. It's built, it's in desperate databases that never talk to each other, but the data is probably already in your company somewhere, so we had to identify where that data was, who the data owners were, and then we had to convince them why it was in everybody's best interest to work with us. It's also about hiring the right people, so I get asked a fair amount of. All the data that's in the tool is anonymized, so the analysts, by the way, really have four analysts for over 100,000 employees. Or recording in the copy of the slides will be shared with you and will be made available via our website. He said he didn't do any kind of a download like that. So that's another outgrowth of a program like this. This single chart answers the vast majority of questions I've received over the years regarding the stand up and the execution of the program. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something OK. And that has resonated with me greatly because I think privacy is a big deal. They were doing OPSEC operational secure. When many of us think about insider threat, we think about NISPOM change 2. Engage via Email. Maybe you just start off with one person you start off with hiring the right person. Manager, Test Engineering ASC at Lockheed Martin . We profile behavior. Congressman Investigation offensive operation in the in the entire community and what I saw was a shift from nation states away from their 100% dwelling on trying to penetrate CIA or FBI or State Department or DoD or DoD. So when I was in the government I had access. It makes us stop and pause for a minute. Typical investigations fraud assault stuff like that. He coordinates the technical development of the X-plane design currently being developed in partnership with NASA. I don't understand how company can afford not to do this. OK, it's OK to go to another company. << I think I speak for everyone to say that we know a lot more than we did. Douglas Rood is a Manager, Test Engineering ASC at Lockheed Martin based in Bethesda, Maryland. Of our office is because I spend a lot of time and so does everybody. Where did we come up with this? 1100 Wilson Boulevard Get in. Learn from Darden faculty through our online courses, available worldwide. In the room, and I did not want this program just on the we have 70,000 cleared employees. endobj So like in our tool. /Type /Pages 1 0 obj What I think my office brought to the table. What did you guys discover? What's unique about the F35 that makes it the awesome machine it is. So sometimes I did ask the question of, well where does your office set? Doug Thomas Head of Corporate CI Operations at Lockheed Martin La Plata, Maryland, United States 11 followers 3 connections Join to connect Lockheed Martin Experience Head of Corporate CI. /Filter /FlateDecode So some people say well, did he get prosecuted well? As a person who loves aviation, I can say with certainty that I love what I do., Lockheed Martin has been a large part of my career, and I plan to stay here. And we watched him, and sure enough. Empowering education leaders with the most innovative thinking in business and education. w/$dPQb+[W4]iSs&!IH:>p\!}{lP!` BE "@6x93r%J+2. Not gonna happen, but what was happening is I did a lousy job of describing or explaining what I thought a critical asset actually meant. You gotta jump over, of course, but that's not the hardest part. And then the last bullet I have there is a farce. That's the result? We spend a lot of time on training and awareness of our workforce, making sure they understand what the threat is is not just a threat against the company and the company. Plus I mean government is a kind of a hard target. Well, you know what? /Img2 9 0 R And it gets in the news. Making sure you're executing the mission right so it just takes patience. Uh, again letters to the company hit the gaining company about what he did and putting them on notice that they use any of his data. Part of that staffing includes the Computer Incident Response team. People with clearances. This just depicts our organizational structure, where it's a centralized mission for sure, but decentralized execution. Employees that don't trust the program won't participate. /Count 2 Towards now, focusing just as much on penetrating corporate America, couple reasons for that one. What we do is, we think of new data that we're not even. Excellent, so we probably have one time for one more question. Well, this is all about access. Below are the 3 lessons I learned from my conversation with Doug. So my staff and I went to visit those 13 companies and what we found was none of them had what we needed. OK, and that is publicly available select. OK, good morning. 4 0 obj Do you have a final bit of advice with us? If you're a company this size and quite frankly you don't have the bandwidth to actually manage that kind of, uh, a list of critical assets. It's only 49 files, but their assessment was. Doug has been at the center of counterintelligence conversations at the highest level of US government. That's how close our relationship is, because as I mentioned before, the execution of program, it's critical that it's executed in a manner that. About this program. A MOSA will provide the interconnectivity needed to work with other elements of the kill web as well as ease of updating depending on mission needs. A lot of it has to do with stressors and people becoming disgruntled and things like that. Or maybe we think about behavioral analysis on our corporate network. Another one, we have an you touched on this a little bit when you're talking about employee communications and governance and this is around a lot of companies have unclear population and clear population. Yeah, I think I think the biggest thing is to have somebody be your cheerleader in your advocate for hiring the right person. Globe Icon. Arlington, VA 22209 USA. Again, if you have. Prior to joining Darden, he was a professor of supply chain management in the Smeal College of Business at Penn State, where he was the faculty director of the MBA program from 2011 to 2014. Click here to see the career opportunities in your area. As an engineer, I love this challenge because I am always learning, creating and seeking solutions that benefit the system around me and the people next to me., I wondered how to fit this role into my already busy life, but my co-workers were so encouraging. Doug Wilhelm's Phone Number and Email. ", "I have been on incredible teams filled with mentors of all levels and backgrounds that are willing to help the next generation learn and grow in their career. Dardens deferred MBA admissions pathway for college seniors and full-time masters students. Who are maybe just starting program? We're looking for risk. Pardon me Who's been involved in that asset discussion? This basically walks you through our journey. It's kind of talents. And they did this in about 3 days. The tool we call it risk analysis and mitigation system. ", Its important to have more women in STEM fields because diversity of thought and experiences drives innovation. He's being terminated from our company and you're on notice. And so you can breathe a little easier now. I think they do a better job of taking care of their information then the government takes care of classified information. It's insider. OK, So what are the ramifications? OK, 'cause you're really focused a lot on stressors And disgruntlement. We have the director counterintelligence operations incorporated investigations at Lockheed Martin and Doug Thomas, who I am delighted to have on the call I'm John Dillard. My boss says I'm opaque, transparent what he means by that is I'm very well our office. To execute a program like this, 'cause there's just your new and you're not known an, you're looked at strangely about wanting all this information. 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