New York: Chax Press, 2010. It seems nobody has any sense of tone of voice any more. Theres a poem where you talk about meeting Teds mother. Its from Homer. AN: Would you like to see the real collage? 121AN: No, never: when I address enemies, I am not carrying them on my shoulder; Im being intensely annoyed by them. Young poets on the Chicago scene regularly hung out with Notley and Berrigan at their home and many followed the couple back to New York City in the late 70s. A semicolon becomes a semi-precious garnet cluster for the way it telegraphs these audacious leaps. DR: Lets see, arrive the exactitude of pitch the tune in words alone; thats In the Pines too. 1967; University of Iowa, Iowa City, M.F.A . 44AN: That photo in the middle is me at age ten, I think. You know that quotation from a Paris Review interview (1983) that everything is this underground river and you can just draw from it any time you want to. [Alice Notley] -- "Considered by many to be among the most outstanding of living American poets, Alice Notley has amassed a body of work that includes intimate lyrics, experimental diaries, traditional genres, the . 93DR: To pursue with craft questions: in the Norton Anthology of American Literature (1979), in talking about Marianne Moore, they say: Pound writes with the phrase, Williams writes with the line, H.D writes with the image, Wallace Stevens and Gertrude Stein write with the word, but Marianne Moore writes with the entire stanza, and I was just wondering if there was a unit that you use? 99: Eileen Myles.. Jack Would Speak Through the Imperfect Medium of Alice is an imagined rebuke by Beat writer Jack Kerouac of his biographers, many of whom focused on the lurid and sensational details of his personal life rather than the importance and impact of his writing. Ive never thought of her as a poet: sometimes I think she doesnt know anything about poetry at all. Ones not overshadowed like in forests elsewhere, but its particularly harsh, and hot: the Mojave goes up to 120-125 [Fahrenheit], sometimes. ASHBERY, John. A similar style is found in other poems from that era, including I the People. She was born in Bisbee, Arizona and grew up in Needles, California. Indeed, French poetry has had some weird times, where it got so abstract. Hastings: Reality Street, 1976. Alice Notley was born in Bisbee, Arizona in 1945 and grew up in Needles, California in the Mojave Desert. New York: Penguin Books, 1977. New York: W.W. Norton & Company, 1979, p. 911-1772. This Kind of Paradise. Parts of a Wedding. Of course, we salute their past: all the greats, Guillaume Apollinaire and Pierre Reverdy, and some well-known others. I would like some help. Whereupon, she just totally melted. It was Alice Notley who would be in the spring session in 2007. But every time he quoted somebody he misquoted him or her without even knowing it, so he always made the texture his own. She distrusts change. Of her 1983 workshop, Notley wrote: I expect my workshop will be similar to past Alice Notley workshops: same old format, assignments, xeroxes, forms, occasions, geometries, kinds of poems, speculations on and practice of the lofty and the silly. So, there were people from all different professions at the table, a few Americans and some artistic peoplebut not that many. 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Shes made few changes to her approach to the work. 85DR: Also referring to the Aeneid, you speak about Dido in Songs And Stories Of The Ghouls (2011): she is a female character who suffers a kind of erasure, despite being the great queen of Carthage. They wanted people to come and put the dances on, trying to help preserve them actually (there were about fifteen or twenty Indian Tribes in Arizona). AN: Yes, and she hasnt changed much. I figured it out afterwards. AroarA. Table of Contents Cellophane-covered CD. AN: Well I grew up in the Southwest. I used to substitute teach for him, sometimes, at Brooklyn College. 79DR: Where leftover misery goes Can a poem be like a dance? AN: Yes, and that is effectively what the. AN: I use all those units and I am aware of how they overlap. The late Gracie Allen was a very lucid comedienne. The conjunctions are the most mysterious places in Johns work. These ideas are all very tangible, yet somewhat unconnected when conversed about and referred to. My collages actually reflect the situation of overabundance. DR: Your humor, in poems like The Prophet (which asks hilariously, Does a hippopotamus get the shakes?) is slightly less well known than your readiness to tackle political subjects. Thats what Ive done ever since in different ways. Mixed media collage, 8.5 x 9.75 in. Flowery mantle. Homeric sacrifice? noise of darkness fear of, darkness now mantle of innocence King of his death now Home, Ive come home He said, Ive come home They were sacrificed for, nothing, for distant instants of thought All for your thinking, Illustration courtesy of Sophie Herxheimer, The Goddess Who Created This Passing World. How, in your view, did humanity get itself in such a predicament? New York: Penguin, 1996. About two-thirds of the way through the book theres a dream that has to do with a poet that has written a poem called disobedience: the poet was Kenneth in the dream, but, such is dream logic, it was really me. New York: Scarlet Editions, 1992. For some 45 years, she has striven against the forces that stifle idiosyncrasy. And they participated, when they lived in Prescott, AZ, in an organization which did Native American Dances every year, called The Smoki, which my father was in, and which had been instituted by the businessmen in Prescott in the 1930s. 76AN: Well I grew up in the Southwest. From this anarchic swirl, brilliant language emerges: Color sizzles my cells, a subversive moon appears, and a moment of playing the dulcimer / in a lemon grove startles. In fact, he had a whole career as a journalist, and knew how to research, to inform his opinions, and to look at events without a preexisting opinion: thus, I learned how to do that from him, though I find that few today are so intellectually honest. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. 2Although she is a Parisian now, Alice Notley was also a key figure on the Lower Manhattan poetry scene particularly of the late 1970s and the 1980s. where it was horizontal on the page. (1954): that book is fantastic; he caught the new line, which he refers to in one of his letters. Eileen was in it, as was Bob Holman. Get book recommendations, fiction, poetry, and dispatches from the world of literature in your in-box. New York: Penguin Poets, 2016. Cars & the variously shod feet were born. 33DR: I think for the reader those part-words can function to foreground an elsewhere. I was wondering if your poems that address completely despicable people might be a case of carrying the enemy on the shoulder. That piece is from a postcard of a painting of Notre-Dame and evil spirits flying out of it. Oakland: O Books, 1995. I have some Cherokee Blood, perhaps one-sixteenth Cherokee. DR: Speaking of Anne Waldman somehow makes me think of the presence of Native Americans in your work. New York: United Artists, 1979. New York: Scribner Poetry, 2001, p.120-124. NOTLEY, Alice. That unusual, horizontal format was probably done to fit the long lines in. Do you remember when he wrote the second The Circus? DR: Like Ted Berrigan and Anne Waldman reading at Saint Marks church their collaborative poem, Memorial Day (May 6, 1971), that episode of Public Access Television. He spent two years in India, which changed everything about him. Batsford Ltd., 1945. They really like, DR: Yes, right, on one level, shall we say? But people often say that Marianne Moore writes with the whole sentence. With Songs and Stories of the Ghouls (2011), Notley once again takes on the challenge of creating a feminist epic. AN: His werent poetry workshops: he taught undergraduate courses at Columbia. Benjamin Voigt grew up on a small farm in upstate New York. KOCH, Kenneth. DR: I think he interrupts the thought, but the thought he interrupts keeps going. Notley began the magazine to connect with preexisting poet friends and meet new writers on both coasts while living in the midwest. The word, the line, and also the stanza. The Indie rock group AroarA put music to her fascinating piece, In the Pines (2007). Then I found all the spots around the world in them and talked about them as being set in the world as a whole, saying that was a fitting poetry for now, when were all crossing borders all the time: spanning geography is the main event today, because there are so many people. New York: TPR. An introduction to one ofthe most lasting styles of mid-century American poetry. AN: Virgil was just this poet and he had to contend with Augustus Caesar. There was pleasure in working with that discovery. Perpetually strapped for cash, the two took on whatever small jobs they could to support the family. , c. 1945, courtesy of the Alice Notley, re-photographed by Daesong Kim. 38AN: Would you like to see the real collage? AN: Well possiblyI take in a lot of things that I dont know about, or that I dont remember. My mother was always curious and interested. 112AN: Ah, thats from Songs and Stories of the Ghouls (2011), from the lady with antlers; that was strange: I fell asleep, dreamed of being a woman with antlers, then when I woke up I opened Le Monde, lo and behold, there was a picture of a model with antlers on her head and she was in a fashion show that day on the runwayshe was wearing antlers: it was a premonitory dream. There was a black woman at a desk when I went in who said, What are you doing here? I just sat down and replied, Im a widow; Ive got two children; I know its been a year and a half since my husband died; Im trying to stay at home as much as I can and I have a part-time job (I was working for Allen Ginsberg at the time). Over the course of her career, Alice Notley has achieved something astounding: each of her nearly 30 books is different from the last one yet unmistakably hers. Recent books continue to be at least somewhat character centered. In 1972, Berrigan and Notley married and moved to Chicago, where they lived until 1976. Est construido en ambas orillas del ro Nore. My book Dsamre (1992) features Robert Desnos and uses patterns from the Lais of Marie de France. Education: Barnard College, New York, B.A. I would give a task often based on traditional forms, or I would get an idea for a subject; and sometimes I used Kenneths books, because he was writing all those books then about teaching in nursing homes and to groups of small children. Her work is various, spontaneous, and increasingly mythological. 92AN: She was great. When he died in 2000, Alice Notley was sufficiently settled into Paris to remain there. We know how inane the decision was that everybody would have a car, completely destroying the planet. Maggie Nelson, in her excellent book about the women of the New York School, describes Notleys later aesthetic as Fuck You the reader, fuck mainstream poetry, fuck avant-garde poetry, fuck France, fuck America, fuck daily life, fuck death, and so on.. It emasculates her. And that other one was something I just picked up from the sidewalk. DR: Right, thats a strong, colonizing streak in Western culture. In this Poem Talk podcast devoted to this poem, it is read as a sort of non-political political poem, bringing the personal into the public. You know Frank was this little gay guy and Ted was this big, butch, working-class guy from Rhode Island; they were both from New England so there may have been something that he caught off of Franks voice as a vibration, or of Franks way of behaving in the world (I never met him; Ted once gave me permission to call him Frank). Im working on arcane things at the moment which I find hard to talk about. It bears a dedication to James Schuyler and Anne and Fairfield Porter, who were also residing together on Long Island at the time. I wrote a poem about it in. 11It was a collaboration of sorts, though I generally do not collaborate; I really hate it. DR: But she came already with a great talent, right, she started out extremely strong. 74AN: Well, you learn a lot from teaching, at the beginning. She has long written in narrative and epic and genre-bending modes to discover new ways to explore the nature of the self and the social and cultural importance of disobedience. 2023 Cond Nast. 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[12] Her own book, entitled Parts of a Wedding, was published first in a small edition by Unimproved Editions then later as a section of the O Books anthology O One.[13]. But every time he quoted somebody he misquoted him or her without even knowing it, so he always made the texture his own. 17AN: Yes, they were the two Irish of the set. This guy is doing vinyl records of poets and hes done a series including one of me and one of Eileen [Myles]. In this interview, she mentions other New York Poets (John Ashbery, James Schuyler, Frank OHara, Kenneth Koch, Ron Padgett, Eileen Myles, Anne Waldman, Joe Brainard, Allan Ginsberg, and Bernadette Mayer). DR: Eileen Myles is another poet who comes from an Irish, working-class, New England background and lost her father. URL: http://journals.openedition.org/transatlantica/13862; DOI: https://doi.org/10.4000/transatlantica.13862, Universit Paris Nanterre and cole nationale suprieure des beaux-arts de Paris, Creative Commons - Attribution - Pas d'Utilisation Commerciale - Pas de Modification 4.0 International - CC BY-NC-ND 4.0, https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/, Voir la notice dans le catalogue OpenEdition, Plan du site Mentions lgales et Crdits Liens Flux de syndication, Politique de confidentialit Gestion des cookies, Nous adhrons OpenEdition Journals dit avec Lodel Accs rserv, You will be redirected to OpenEdition Search. In a lecture titled Thinking and Poetry, Notley underscores the deep difficulty of following ones own direction: I find being a poet something that must start again all the time; Im DR: Also Im coming back often to that poem, In this Paradise, about the food-stamp office. Then I figured out how to write them, so they enter the text. Left-wing Radicalism in the United States: A Foreign Creed? New York: Columbia Records, 1989. (1945) a couple of years ago because she was being bashed in the States again: they were underlining her Vichy connections in order to make her into a kind of villain, without any regard for how difficult it must have been: a lesbian living with another lesbian, in her sixties, in a country that wasnt her own country, Jewish, thus a prime candidate for the camps. Notley was born in Arizona and grew up in Needles, California. Ill read a part of it: Alice Notley, Where Leftover Misery Goes in. Line Breaks in America: the Odds and Ends of Poetry, Places and Cultures of Capitalism: Histories from the Grassroots, Conjunctions of the Literary and the Philosophical in Twentieth- and Twenty-First-Century American Writing, Creating the Child Audience: Media and the Invention of Modern American Childhood, Les mots pour le dire. I also have a vinyl record, its like one of those jazz albums. dreams. from Barnard College in 1967 and an M.F.A. Its flowing world is populated by characters who seem to personify indeterminate pronouns (like a shaman named Qui) and theres a general defiance of set categories: and if one who renews refuses / gender? 25AN: Yes, and she hasnt changed much. Other possible issues: goofy works, "description," dreams (the new gen), school of Susie Timmons, rejuvenation of the "found work," the "line," how to be like Elinor [Nauen] and Maggie [Dubris], how to cultivate inventiveness, strategies for dry spell, dictionaries, diaries, little plays, calligrams, tiles, left-hand margins, how to get great theories and general self-improvement. NOTLEY, Alice. New York: Unimproved Editions, 1986. New Addresses was influenced by my autobiographical book that almost won the Pulitzer Prize, Mystery of Small Houses (1998), getting him to dredge up his past, bravely. [2], After Notley's graduation, she and Berrigan spent periods of time in New York City and Buffalo. 27AN: I dont think thats true of her poetry though, and I dont think thats what John did exactly. I could have a conversation about Royal Trux: a very chaotic indie group, sometimes awful, sometimes amazingly brilliant. That is just the beginning. DR: There are some lines from your poems, wrought like those in Stein, that one could carry in ones head all day and it would color that day; for example, that thinks but not only on words is one; all thats left of the old world are beautiful voices, is another that might change ones day. Considered by many to be among the most outstanding of living American poets, Alice Notley has amassed a body of work that includes intimate lyrics, experimental diaries, traditional genres, the postmodern series, the newly invented epic, political observation and invective, and the poem as novel. Within the text, a woman is desperate to take her daughter above ground, therefore she offers to pay the tyrant money. Somewhere, I have a photo of my father with a snake in his mouth and every year that he did it, he got a little tattoo of a star on his hand; and my mother danced the year she was pregnant with me the. 48AN: I read it when I was about twenty-three, in English. After earning her BA from Barnard College and MFA from the Iowa Writers Workshop, Notley traveled extensively around the U.S. and abroad. Eileen Myles wrote of their experience in Notley's workshops in their books Chelsea Girls (Black Sparrow Press, 2004; Ecco, 2015) and Inferno (O/R Books, 2010). I the People A woman whose work completely knocked me out. We know how inane the decision was that everybody would have a car, completely destroying the planet. Sign up for the Books & Fiction newsletter. I was her teacher, though Im not much older than she is, about four years older. I have some Cherokee Blood, perhaps one-sixteenth Cherokee. I thought that that printing added something, though: I enjoyed turning the book to read the poem. American Literature between the Wars, 1914-1945. Gen. Ed. His poems are totally him; his voice is unique; his sensibility is unique; and he was always basing it on something else; he wanted to be like Frank [OHara] intensely, but there was no way he could be like Frank. Just like I did. The jacket copy attempts to sketch the books plot: the protagonist, named One, is suddenly within the Glyph. However, New York Poetry authorized one to draw from others, taking a bit from this one, and from that one, which I did for a long time. Raw language is the final material we have; it is only by shaping and reshaping it that we can hope to rebuild our world. Notley came to prominence as a member of the second generation of the New York School of poetryalthough she has always denied being involved with the New York School or any specific movement in general. My collages actually reflect the situation of overabundance. There was one called How Green Was My Hair Brush? which was a Ron title. I used to substitute teach for him, sometimes, at Brooklyn College. 91DR: You quote the powerful, assertive voice of Marianne Moore in a poem. Instead of second-guessing their style, we could talk about the way they handled the tasks. I wonder about it later, but actually it always seems like it is justified: I think the people that I mentioned in. The Art of Poetry: John Ashbery. Ed. [1] [2] The poem is notable for Notley's extensive use of quotation marks throughout, which she has described as part of her attempt to reclaim the narrative function. The circle of younger poets who spent time with Notley and Berrigan included the aforementioned members of the Yellow Press team, Barbara Barg, Rochelle Kraut, Rose Lesniak, Bob Rosenthal, Steve Levine, Simon Schuchat, Tim Milk, and several others. Notleys writing at this time begins to shift away from singular poems and toward book-length projects with overarching styles and themes. 80AN: Probably, I wouldnt dance, but Anne might. This novel in poems, as its jacket copy describes it, covers the life of Marie, a woman who lives in a shack in the town dump. My current process is to write in the morning. Interview with Barbara Barg, Rose Lesniak, and Tim Milk. AN: When its around me, I take it in. AN: She lost her father younger than Ted lost his. AN: He was a good friend. They really like The Descent of Alette, because its like a video game. Entitled The Speak Angel Series, her latest collection of new material is forthcoming from . For death? I felt I knew what the cry house was, and had ideas about it: I knew how to use regional things. 1Alice Notley is a major American poet of our day, who has been living in Paris since the early 1990s, when she moved there with her second husband, the English poet, Doug Oliver (1937-2000), because Paris was where his professorial career was taking him. The Descent of Alette. The others were like me, though Hispanic and black. Need a transcript of this episode? DR: To pursue with craft questions: in the. For the Ride is a difficult book, constructed largely of long, discursive lines reminiscent of a Beckett monologue, testing the selfs capacity to hold together: one is not, ones are not, separated. In this emblematic early piece, the text spills across the page. 4Since then, her poetry has continued to flow and evolve. You have a poem called Cherokee (2006). Why poetry is necessary and sought after during crises. The Desert Music and Other Poems. My favorite is how to cure an octopus: you go fishing, get an octopus, and you beat it against a rock. I knew that I was also doing something like what they used to talk about in college: the taking of two disjunctive things then the jamming of them together: that was part of our critical education at the time; in fact, John Ashbery would have had it too, probably, though he was twenty years older than I was. 214, fall 2015, p.34-121. From her early days in the male-dominated New York School, Notleys work has been persistently, fiercely feminist, and this poems matter-of-fact mythmakingthe world it describes is ourspresages her later efforts to write women into the Homeric tradition. Her last collection, Mysteries of Small Houses, was a finalist for both the Pulitzer Prize in poetry and the Los Angeles Times Book Prize. That was one of the first things Ted [Berrigan] told me about John: he kept a list of titles, like Civilization and Its Discontents, then he would decide, Ah, that would be a great title for a poem, and then later he would check his list and pull that title out. Her poems have also been compared to Gertrude Stein, as well as her contemporary Bernadette Mayer. vol. Alice Notley is an extraordinary reader of her own work, which, in the last year, she has read in the U.S.A. (Providence, R.I., and Brooklyn, N.Y.), in the U.K. (Birmingham), and in France (The Pompidou Center, Paris). which is certainly a splendid and beautiful poem, does. Kilkenny (irlands: Cill Chainnigh [cil xani], que significa 'iglesia de Cainnech') es una ciudad en el condado de Kilkenny, Irlanda. 99AN: Frank caught how great Pictures from Breughel and Other Poems (1962) was. 116AN: I was there. She wound up in a nursing home, the life and soul of the nursing home: a great Irish lady. 64AN: He was a good friend. 115DR: Also Im coming back often to that poem, In this Paradise, about the food-stamp office. In the case of John Ashbery, theres a poem called Syringa (1977) with an Orphean motif. At that stage, Allen Ginsberg, a really fine person, was extremely supportive. If not, boo hoo. American Literature between the Wars, 1914-1945. Gen. Ed. In March 2021, Notley was a guest blogger forHarriet. Get this from a library! To Annapurna or Mt. NOTLEY, Alice. AN: I dont remember that poem, Syringa, but John tends to pick things out: he used to keep lists of his titles and then he would decide to write the poem of that title. Notley has remained in Paris but makes several trips to the United States each year to give readings and teach small workshops. much cooked meat, and potatoes with drippings (tears). NOTLEY, Alice. DR: Now I heard you say that the cadences for, AN: I actually listened to Monteverdi to get the cadences that were before, : particularly in White Phosphorus (1988) and at the end of Beginning with a Stain, . Alice Notley (born November 8, 1945) is an American poet. 100DR: What do you think of Gertrude Stein and of the kind of permutations she does: almost like rolling things around in your mouth? Notley's 1985 play "Anne's White Glove," a commission by Ada Katz's Eye and Ear Theater navigated the pain of Berrigan's death, and her collections Margaret & Dusty (Coffee House, 1985), Parts of a Wedding (Unimproved Editions, 1986), and At Night the States (The Yellow Press, 1987) contain material written during a period of mourning. I had met him in 1969, then we stayed friends. 123AN: I wrote an essay about her work in a book of essays called Coming After (2005), and I have essays in it about her and Joanne Kyger, Ted Berrigan, Lorenzo Thomas, Frank OHara, and some others. There was a black woman at a desk when I went in who said, What are. About two-thirds of the way through the book theres a dream that has to do with a poet that has written a poem called disobedience: the poet was Kenneth in the dream, but, such is dream logic, it was really me. doing here? I just sat down and replied, Im a widow; Ive got two children; I know its been a year and a half since my husband died; Im trying to stay at home as much as I can and I have a part-time job (I was working for Allen Ginsberg at the time). 8DR: Such natural presences are important. Notley gave birth to their first son, Anselm Berrigan, named after Anselm Hollo, in 1972, as well. 70DR: Was the teaching of poetry workshops something that connected you to Kenneth Koch? AN: No, never: when I address enemies, I am not carrying them on my shoulder; Im being intensely annoyed by them. The Paris Review Interviews vol. However, I dont know what I was listening to when I was beginning to write. KOCH, Kenneth. On Ted Berrigans exuberant and idiosyncratic prose. When we moved to Needles, there had been a cry house which was a place where the Mojaves would go to cry when somebody died, and there was now this pile of boards: my mother was completely fascinated by the cry house, thus she would use that phrase; one of the first stories I wrote on route to the University of Iowas Writers Workshop for an MFA as a prose writer was about Needles, concerning a white man who goes to the cry house to cry. These places are continuously operating as presences in your poetry, particularly the Needles of your youth, in California, the Lower Manhattan in the heyday of New York School Poetry, and the Paris of today. Ad Choices. NOTLEY, Alice and Ted BERRIGAN, editors. In addition to collections of poetry, Notley has published the autobiography Tell Me Again (1982), the play Annes White Glove (1985), and a book of essays on poets and poetry, Coming After (2005). 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